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PostSubject: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:10 am

I have a bone stock ae86. I wanna make it drift good lol

Any opinions, tips, tricks?

thank you!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:16 am

!st. Use the search function. There are at least two threads on the subject.

2nd. It's not the car that makes a good drifter, it's the driver.

3rd. Put alot of air in the tires. And go like stink.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GXaRCVwdrg&feature=plcp&context=C22dc9UDOEgsToPDskKxNeR4vQKW15han4FjpP7N
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:25 am

What about aftermarket parts and things like that.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:46 am

Refer to number #1. It's a pretty dificult concept to grasp I know.

We're all here to help but don't have alot of patience for people that ask questions that can be answered by using the search function. If you really care and really want to learn, you'll use it.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:19 am

thanks found everything i needed.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:41 pm

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:11 pm

Parts don't make good drifts. You have everything you need already: a RWD car.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:37 pm

I agree, they will help you out tho.

"Its not the car its the driver." Yea to a certain extent geek
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:34 pm

Nah, with drifting it's like 90% driver. Srsly.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:58 pm

yeah i agree.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:51 pm

Taotaman4 wrote:
I have a bone stock ae86. I wanna make it drift good lol

Any opinions, tips, tricks?

thank you!! cheers

Serious question or just playing around?
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:35 pm

semi serious, i know they lack majorly in power...

from the stock car. what aftermarket things should i look into, that was more of the question. lol i just want to drift haha
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

you don't go gung-ho with crazy upgrades to learn drifting. Only upgrade as you out grow your car.

Seat time, seat time, seat time, tires, seat time, seat time, good spring/shocks, seat time, LSD/Welded, seat time, seat time, more suspension, even more seat time, power, seat time.

^theres your upgrade list to drifting lol
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:47 pm

Okay seems legit Cool

What do you know about the weir performance diff spool? that on my christmas list lol santa
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:40 pm

You'll eventually need it, so sure. Now drifting a Corolla is not like any other kind of car. You have to kick the shit out of it. Practice clutch kicks and flick techniques. If you're afraid of hurting the car, don't waste your time.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:45 pm

EricsFreeAE86 wrote:
You'll eventually need it, so sure. Now drifting a Corolla is not like any other kind of car. You have to kick the shit out of it. Practice clutch kicks and flick techniques. If you're afraid of hurting the car, don't waste your time.

Got that right, gotta use rpms not power.

And wet ground preferred:p
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:57 pm

Clutch kicking sounds like its insanely bad for your drivetrain. It's not something that I would do unless I wanted to to break the trans or rear end.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:41 pm

clutch kicking a 4ac won't do much too your drive train except tear up your clutch. Speed, Momentum, and feints are your friend.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:02 am

SidewaysEightSix wrote:
clutch kicking a 4ac won't do much too your drive train except tear up your clutch. Speed, Momentum, and feints are your friend.

only chance i got of drifting my 86 is a long straight w/ feint or ebrake Sad low grip tires, cut or lowering springs and put the pedal to the medal that all you need to start having fun!
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:03 am

Usually the first things that break are the axle shafts, but just upgrade to a GTS rear end and a 4AC will never hurt it. But you'll blow up the clutch before then. Again, easy upgrade to Spec or ACT or TRD etc.
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:14 pm

EricsFreeAE86 wrote:
You'll eventually need it, so sure. Now drifting a Corolla is not like any other kind of car. You have to kick the shit out of it. Practice clutch kicks and flick techniques. If you're afraid of hurting the car, don't waste your time.

+1

Even doing a 4age swap would help but still need to clutch kit it a lot. This car even in its GTS state still lacks power. A lot of people will tell you seat time cause that is the only way to learn. And PLEASE PLEASE don't just start drifting corner after corner cause you will never learn anything.

Go to a clear parking lot and bring 2 pylon cones with you. set them up maby 50 to 60 ft apart. then practice going in circles around them and learn your cars speed and grip point. These 2 alone will put you ahead of a lot of beginners. Knowing how your car handles and knowing what its going to do is the main point of drifting. It may look easy on tv and I admit I wish I could drift at 90mph but it scares the shit out of me. I do drift here and there but with the lack of POWER your really not gonna do alot. The question you should always ask is to do a ride along when you and a few buddies go drifting. when you see how drifting is done from inside another persons car and seeing what they do will trip you out. But pick up a copy of the drift bible and watch it like 50 times and then go out and do the parking lot thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3vURFCwe4
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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:48 pm

as stated....

rwd, 5spd and clutch kicks will do it...

gravel and rainy days with increased rear tire pressure will also help...

weld or buy a spool for the rear end..
http://www.weirperformance.com/spoolslimitedslipunits.html


a good clutch always helps...
the f1 clutches on ebay are good, not sure if they make an actual kit...

more stiff suspension.. short stroke shocks and better springs(or a coilover setup) <-- not needed right away but an essential when refining your skills...

join local drift or autocross events, read a lot of tech on tire compounds, brake systems and driving techniques..

use tires with smaller sidewalls.. no larger than 60...

flush and bleed clutch system..

watch every single episode of initial d then do it again a few more times....

watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Gm1Swa0FE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU-jIvVhTiE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n3yAxYofLE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9orhYaSJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HUda01e8bE&feature=related

DRIVEDRIVEDRIVEDRIVEDRIVEDRIVEDRIVE

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PostSubject: Re: 4ac Drift ae86?   Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:00 am

Thanks I have drifted before I just was curious about this cad, thanks all! Very Happy
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